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Poor analogy

pw Back when Brett Bonner was still around I suggested that he team up with Joe Teehan for a show like KVI’s commentators in which liberal Ken Schram and conservative Jon Carlson host a daily show.

Joe on the other hand I see as liberal and not very sensible.  Most of the time I can’t stand listening to him or his even more liberal and less sensible guests.  But I have noticed that when talking with a conservative guest rather than a conservative caller, he quickly tones things down to a point that I can understand and sometimes appreciate his opinion.  Then I heard the blurb you did about him and I wondered if Bellingham might be into a show with you two together.  I think it would have mass appeal in Whatcom County.

It’s not in my work schedule hear much talk radio, but every now and then I like to indulge myself with one of KGMI’s podcasts.  As you can tell from my last few posts, how the world reacts to the situation in Gaza if of great interest to me.  So I downloaded a copy of the Morning show with Joe & Patti that listed Gaza as a topic.  After a few minutes on this polarizing topic I found it was quite an interesting twist that with the all the shuffling at KGMI, and Brett Bonner’s exit, we now have the type of show that I wanted when Brett was around.  We have a toned down yet still liberal Joe Teehan teamed with the obviously conservative, yet not line toting, Patti Brooks.

On this episode I found the Joe & Patti lined up pretty much where I hear most who identify themselves with the left and right; Joe claiming that Israel has their rights, but that they are way out of line with the amount of force, and Patti more in line with myself in that Israel is just doing what they feel is necessary to put an end to the years of bombardment from Gaza.

In the show, Joe refers to the Hamas as a small minority and in his analogy to Whatcom County uses the example of a few guys lobbing rockets into Canada.  While this is very similar to other analogies I’ve heard from the left, it is still just as wrong.  Joe’s assessment of Hamas as a minority and similar to a few guys in Whatcom county is totally inaccurate.  The Palestinian people elected officials from the Hamas Party, the same way we elect Democrats, Republicans, Libertarians, etc.

Saturday, January 29, 2005
Hamas, a radical islamist party, has won by a large majority in the Gaza Strip council elections held last month. Hamas won 75 out of the 118 seats, with Fatah, the party of Palestinian leader, Mahmoud Abbas only managing to secure 39 seats. Of the ten council areas in Gaza, Hamas has control of seven.
http://en.wikinews.org/wiki/Hamas_takes_victory_in_Gaza_elections

The rockets are not fired off by a minority or a few guys as Joe says, they are smuggled into the area and fired off by members of Hamas.  The same Hamas that was elected with 64% of the vote.  The Democrats are the majority party in our state and in the last election, showed not dissimilar percentages.

So a more correct analogy might be one where our state government under Democrat Christine Gregiore’s leadership secretly truck in rockets from Oregon and local Democrats set them up in public school yards.  The Democratic Party, still angry over the Great Pig War, launch rockets North for 7 years before Canada finally fights back.  They target government and public facilities; they target high ranking Democratic Party officials.
In fear for their life, Republicans steer clear of public schools, City Council meetings, Neighbors with lingering Obama ’08 signs, the Federal building, the college and any other known Democrat hangouts.  The Canadians make a valiant effort to target only hate mongering Democrats, yet sadly many peaceful Republicans are caught in the crossfire.  International news condemns Canada for allowing the deaths of Republican children.
Many Democrats die at the hands of Canada before Canada returns home.  In Washington, we Republicans pray that Canada has made a big enough impact on the Democratic Party that the Republicans will be triumphant in the next election.  Even though Washington is made up of both Democrats and Republicans, we Republicans are willing to put generations of Pig War anger and forge a lasting peace with Canada.
(previous analogy is completely fictional and any similarities between Democrats and Hamas are purely coincidental)

Not every Palestinian wants to wipe Israel off the world, but enough of them apparently do that they elected a ruling party who indiscriminately fires rockets into Israel.  Israel will hopefully kill or chase out enough Hamas supporters, so that the more peaceful Fatah party might flourish and not shoot rockets into Israel.  As the threat from Gaza diminishes, trade with Israel and the world will increase and Gaza may become a peaceful and prosperous place to live.

The ball is, as it has been, in Gaza’s court.  If they choose violence towards Israel, then there will be violence towards Gaza, but if they choose to live peacefully with Israel then there will in Gaza.

Putting an end to 15 seconds

sderotchildren4 Israel knows the number of Hamas rockets and mortar shells that have been fired from Gaza since they peacefully left the area in Palestinian rule.  The rest to the world may have been behind, but are starting to come up to speed.  I can’t imagine what life is like for those in Israel so it is really not up to me to judge the magnitude of their response to the Hamas problem.  Watch 15 Seconds, Another 15 seconds and 15 seconds in Sderot; you will have a better understanding of what it is like for those living in southern Israel.  We worry about WASL’s yet over a year ago public schools in Sderot were moved underground for safety from continuous Hamas attacks.

A quick aside regarding disproportionate response; I am all for it.  If a one small person were in the middle of an armed bank robbery, I’d want more than one one small police officer showing up at the scene; disproportion is good.

This is not a new situation.  Where were the condemnations of Hamas by the international community?  Where were the front page news stories about Hamas’ almost daily bombing of peaceful Israeli people?  I believe the press came up a little short in accurately reporting the situation and I applaud Israel for shutting down the 15 second dash for life; especially knowing full well that they would be seen as the bad guys by the international community and the press.

The stories are there in support of Israel and in condemnation of Hamas, but I think the press is so used to bashing President Bush for defending our nation against Islam that they only see things through Allah colored glasses.  If this were not the case then why didn’t I see bipartisan support for Israel articles all over the news when Democrats and Republicans alike are standing in support of Israel.

Recently Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid of Nevada (D) speaking on Meet the Press gave a great synopsis and even a little NW analogy in his summation of Gaza situation.

Let’s understand the background.  For eight years they’ve been firing rockets into Israel.  They’ve become more intense the last few months.  Israelis have been killed, maimed and injured.  Sometimes more than 200 a day coming into Israel.

If this were going on in the United States from Vancouver, Canada, into Seattle, would we react?  Course we do.  We would have to.  I think what the Israelis are doing is very important.  I think this terrorist organization, Hamas, has got to be put away.  They’ve got to come to their senses.  The Fatah group, which is–makes up part of Palestinian group, has a peace arrangement with Israel. Hamas should do the same.

And, and, and Israel, for–since 1967, controlled Gaza.  They gave it to the Palestinians as a gesture of peace.  And all they got are a bunch of rockets in return.

I, I’m not concerned about removing Hamas from power, I’m concerned about stopping the rocket fire and the mortar fire into Israel.  That is the key, and that’s what Israel’s up to according to the prime minister.

[regarding an immediate cease-fire]

If the Hamas organization will agree and there is some degree of certainty that they will follow through.  They, in the past, have simply not lived up to what they said they would do.  If there’s a way of enforcing this cease-fire, then yes.  Otherwise, Israel has to continue till they stop the rockets and mortars coming into Israel, maiming, injuring……and killing Israelis.

Hamas has made it abundantly clear that peace with Israel is not an option leaving Israel with simply no choice but to end the 15 second situation through force.  .

“Israel will exist and will continue to exist until Islam will obliterate it, just as it obliterated others before it.”

“There is no solution for the Palestinian question except through Jihad. Initiatives, proposals and international conferences are all a waste of time and vain endeavors.

Do you remember those lines from the official Hamas covenant that first appeared here in a post regarding Hamas overthrowing the more peaceful Palestinian Fatah Party?  Peaceful in that they were willing to make a very unique, in the Middle East, step towards peace by accepting Israel’s right to exist as a nation.

Jeffrey Goldberg, for the Atlantic, just wrote regarding Nizzar Rayyan, the Hamas leader who was killed in an Israeli bombing raid last week.  He had interviewed him in Gaza a few years ago.

There was no flexibility with Rayyan. This is what he said when I asked him if he could envision a 50-year hudna (or cease-fire) with Israel: “The only reason to have a hudna is to prepare yourself for the final battle. We don’t need 50 years to prepare ourselves for the final battle with Israel.” There is no chance, he said, that true Islam would ever allow a Jewish state to survive in the Muslim Middle East. “Israel is an impossibility. It is an offense against God.”

…and it is true that Allah continually makes the Jews pay for their crimes in many different ways. They are a cursed people.”

“You are murderers of the prophets and you have closed your ears to the Messenger of Allah,” he said.

Here I am clapping again for Israel and their decision to put an end to the Hamas/Gaza situation.  Israel’s only intentions have been to live in peace without constant threat.  Hamas has always been very vocal about their intentions; they intend to kill Jews until there are no Jews left to kill.  Hamas are the radicals we speak of when we refer to radical Islam.  For example who knows that crucifixion is called for in the Qur’an?

5:33 Those who wage war against God and His Messenger and strive to spread corruption in the land should be punished by death, crucifixion, the amputation of an alternate hand and foot or banishment from the land: a disgrace for them in this world, and then a terrible punishment in the Hereafter, (The Qur’an, Oxford UP, 2004)

I don’t here a lot about crucifixion from middle of the road Islam, yet Hamas, just before Christmas, seemed to offer a reproof of their radicalism with their reinstatement of crucifixion as a punishment for offenses against God.  I suppose that would include offenses like Israel’s mere existence as Nizzar Rayyan mentioned.

Israel’s has endured years of the 15 second dash for life and only wants to bring this to an end to it so they can live peacefully in the Middle East.  Go ahead and read all the news, but if you find yourself opposing Israel’s recent actions, then please take 15 seconds and ask yourself why you would side with Hamas.

JWR: Is Israel Using ‘Disproportionate Force’

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Just the cold, hard facts.

Forward to those who want them — and need them

Israeli population centers in southern Israel have been the target of over 4,000 rockets, as well as thousands of mortar shells, fired by Hamas and other organizations since 2001. Rocket attacks increased by 500 percent after Israel withdrew completely from the Gaza Strip in August 2005. During an informal six-month lull, some 215 rockets were launched at Israel.

Read the rest at jewishworldreview.com 

As I said in yesterday’s post regarding Israel and Gaza, if we want peace in the middle east then we should be supporting Israel.  Yet, I still am reading in the news today that people around the world and even in our own backyard are protesting Israel in seeming support for Hamas.  Where have the protesters against Hamas been hanging out for the last 7 years as Israel was getting fired upon almost daily? 

Support peace in the Middle East, support Israel

I can visualize, though not remember the name of this kid who showed up in class partway through 2nd grade.  I remember him both because of how weird it sounded that he couldn’t have lights on at night in his last house and because he came to America after loosing his parents in a war.   Perhaps my memories of this kid whose parents had died burned a little deeper than normal because my mother had died near that time.

I didn’t realize until much later, but this was probably around the time of the Six Day War and I had shared a table with someone who had lived through what now should be past history.  One would think we should be past the violence against Israel, but when all the people around you feel you don’t have a right to exist; well then we have an awful lot to get past and not a lot of common ground to work from.

The Israelis finally get enough of the constant rain of rockets on their border towns and villages, fired by Hamas thugs… Those international thugs have become expert at retail death, killing one or two Jews one day, occasionally three or four on another, but rarely enough to make the front pages in London or Paris, Washington or New York.  JWR

This latest manifestation of hatred towards Israel didn’t seem much different from the rest, but I did spend a bit of time reading around the current goings on in the Middle East.  There is a lot written, but I usually find the most concise and uncluttered information at Global Security.   Here’s some of what they had.

  • Rather than talking about continuing the soon to expire 6 month cease fire agreement, between 12/16 & 12/18 Hamas launches a total of 40 rockets into Israel
  • On 12/19 Hamas actually declares an end to the 6 month old cease fire agreement between Israel & Hamas
  • During the 8 days following, Hamas launches 300 more rockets into Israel
  • On 12/27 alone, Hamas launched 130 rockets at Israel
  • Then after 11 days of unanswered rocket attacks by Hamas, Israel struck back
  • On 12/28, rocket attacks by Hamas were down to only 20 rockets

I might have thought it more neighborly to end the ceasefire before surprising Israel with 40 rockets, but apparently that’s just me, and not Hamas.  Also reported at Global Security were a couple of statements by Israeli Foreign Minister Tzipi Livni,

He told NBC [that] Israel is sending a message to Hamas that it will protect its people.

Livni also said with regards to when Israel could cease actions against Hamas,

“It will take the time which is needed in order to change the realities and up to the point at which Hamas understands that we can accept no longer the equation in which they target Israel and Israel shows restraint,”

Had Hamas shipped in hundreds of tons of food rather than hundreds of missiles during the last 6 months of ceasefire, the people living in Gaza right now would be fed and likely not suffering injury and/or death as Israel tries to take out military targets.  So, yes, the people living in Gaza including the Hamas, need to change their realities a bit.

I believe it is unrealistic to think that Israel will continue to endure these situations over and over again.  I certainly applaud them for their incredible restraint, but like both our nation’s leader and leader-elect believe; I also believe that Israel has a right to defend herself against these type of hostilities.

AP/Yahoo News reported a statement by State department spokesman Gordon Duguid

We are encouraging all the nations in the region to take an active part in rebuilding the cease-fire so that we can return to the relative calm that was enjoyed in the region over the past six months

In the same article they also report on statements by White House spokesman Gordon Johndroe who said “the Israeli actions were “in response to the mortar and rocket attacks on Israel” and said that the United States has asked Israel to avoid civilian casualties in Gaza.”

White House spokesman Gordon Johndroe also made this clear statement,

“The United States understands that Israel needs to take actions to defend itself.”

And our leader elect Barack Obama spoke on this subject back in July when the now broken ceasefire was fresh and full of promise. say bravo for Israel.

PH2008072303655The senator spoke to reporters in Sderot, a town a mile from Gaza that has been the target of rocket attacks from Hamas, the Palestinian group that controls that Gaza Strip.

“We stand with the people of Sderot and all the people of Israel. Israelis should not have to live endangered in their homes and their schools. America must always stand up for Israel’s right to defend itself against those who threaten its people.”

pbs.org

Since 2001 over 3000 rockets and 2500 mortars have been fired from Gaza into Israel.   Each year that has gone by has brought more death and destruction to Southern Israel.  Israeli children are raised in a constant state of fear because the rockets and mortars are indiscriminate in their targets; they can land anywhere any time.  And even as other Islamic leaders in the region called for Israel to be wiped off the map; Israel who could have at any moment actually wiped the people of Gaza from this earth; didn’t.  They didn’t for the sake of the innocent people in Gaza and they didn’t to show that Israel and the Israeli people are willing to sacrifice for the peace process.

With this last round of attacks Hamas has debuted even more powerful rockets with greater payloads and greater range.  Even more Israeli people are at risk now, so no matter how much Israel wants the peace process work, I entirely understand their need to defend themselves.  Yet to their credit, even in this deadly process, Israel is working to save lives.

Israel, which has also allowed limited humanitarian supplies into the strip, is attacking Hamas-run organizations, homes of activists and security posts — all scattered in densely populated areas.

ctv.ca/AP

Dipping into their bag of tricks for the updated Gaza telephone numbers, Israel’s intelligence services are warning Palestinian civilians in Gaza living close to Hamas facilities that they may be hurt unless they distance themselves from those targets.
In some cases, the warning comes not by telephone but from leaflets dropped from aircraft on selected districts.
Such warnings clearly eliminate the element of surprise, but for Israel it is of cardinal importance to minimise civilian casualties,

news.com.au

I believe we as individuals and as a nation should stand together in supporting Israel’s right to defend their people from harm.

I believe we as individuals and as a nation should stand together in support and appreciation for the sacrifices the people of Israel are making in their attempts to keep peace in the Middle East.

We should be applauding their actions rather than protesting them and by such protests lending support to Hamas, who has shown no tangible evidence of a desire for peace in the region; that is peace short of the peace they feel will come from annihilating Israel and the Jewish people.

Please spread your support for Israel amongst your friends and please share your support for Israel with your representatives.  There will not be lasting peace in the Middle East unless we support Israel.

Lock him up!

If this is factual then it is time for Barack Obama to withdraw his candidacy and resign his Senate seat, because this anti-US behavior is so atrociously treasonous that it makes Jim McDermott look like a patriot whose image should adorn a coin or a rock face.

WHILE campaigning in public for a speedy withdrawal of US troops from Iraq, Sen. Barack Obama has tried in private to persuade Iraqi leaders to delay an agreement on a draw-down of the American military presence.

According to Iraqi Foreign Minister Hoshyar Zebari, Obama made his demand for delay a key theme of his discussions with Iraqi leaders in Baghdad in July.

“He asked why we were not prepared to delay an agreement until after the US elections and the formation of a new administration in Washington,” Zebari said in an interview.

Obama insisted that Congress should be involved in negotiations on the status of US troops – and that it was in the interests of both sides not to have an agreement negotiated by the Bush administration in its “state of weakness and political confusion.”

While in Iraq, Obama also tried to persuade the US commanders, including Gen. David Petraeus, to suggest a “realistic withdrawal date.” They declined.

Obama has given Iraqis the impression that he doesn’t want Iraq to appear anything like a success, let alone a victory, for America. The reason? He fears that the perception of US victory there might revive the Bush Doctrine of “pre-emptive” war – that is, removing a threat before it strikes at America.

NY Post: Obama tried to stall GI’s Iraq withdrawal

Senator Obama attempting to coerce US commanders for his own political gain?  Attempting to negotiate troop activity directly with a foreign power and behind the back of our Commander in Chief?  No part of this situation sounds legal nor ethical; in fact it sounds downright treasonous.  Was this Hillary Clinton’s October surprise come early?

After reading this, and again assuming it is factual, I not only don’t want Sen. Obama for president, I want to see him locked up.  NObama!

Parkenfarker Group: NEWS FROM THE FRONTLINES

Parkenfarker Group’s foreign policy contributor GK has written a great post surrounding news from Iraq that is sadly lacking in media. I point this post out because how, when, how much and how far we leave Iraq is an election issue for many.

Today we conducted our second Reconciliation Gathering and this was even more successful than the initial one with 42 terrorists coming forward to lay their arms down and join the peace process. We expect this number to continue to grow exponentially as the Government of Iraq informally approves of this path to peace. We will continue to pursue every avenue possible through lethal actions against our enemies or by making offerings for amnesty to those deserving.

Many of you are probably either not believing what we are achieving or are in disbelief because of what the media reports. I cannot tell you the media misleads anyone because we have less of a perspective of the comprehensive situation in Iraq than you probably do. But we can speak for the Area of Operations Summit in which we are responsible.

There are three primary reasons for the success we’ve achieved. First, our lethal targeting has evolved to PhD level effectiveness. Our Soldiers are capturing their intended targets every single day with a level of success no one could have asked for. Secondly, the formation of the Awakening or Concerned Local Citizens within AO Summit has emplaced over 6,000 Iraqi partners in our AO. This required tremendous effort and hard work from your loved ones. But it’s paid off in lives saved, terrorists captured, IED’s discovered and caches turned in on a daily basis. There is literally no where for the enemy to hide right now.

Ron Paul supporters are for a non-intervention policy, George Bush/John McCain supporters such as myself feel that we are generally on the right path, and Barack Obama supporters seem to be gathering behind his “change” plan which if you read the fine print looks a lot like the current George Bush plan. So as you are forming your opinion, please consider News from the Frontlines and the countless others like it available on the internet. And lastly, when you look at a candidate for president, really study the plan they are proposing for Iraq.

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